.45 ACP – sighted!

This past week I saw something that I have not seen in over 6+ months. In fact, something I had not seen since the year 2008.

“Winchester .45 ACP White Box at Walmart”

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I was able to pick up 5 boxes of the .45ACP. Which cleaned out my Walmart’s stock. But I had little guilt in lieu of the fact that I have not been able to buy any .45 ACP in over half a year – even checking several Walmarts regularly on a monthly basis in both Pennsylvania and Connecticut.

I also picked up two 100 round boxes of the Federal .223 for $40 each. And a box of the Winchester Supreme Elite .38 Special for $19.95. Which is a really good price for decent personal defense ammunition. This is Winchester’s new bonded  personal defense ammo, which is supposed to ensure expansion by welding the copper jacket to the lead. As I did not have any personal defense ammo for our Ruger GP100 chambered in .357 Magnum.

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N.U.G.U.N. Arsenal Update:  With this recent purchase and the 12 boxes of 9mm I picked up in Connecticut; I am finally reaching a point where I am almost comfortable with the state of the family arsenal (ammunition stockpile). I believe it was Michael Bane who commented that the bare minimum stock should be 200 rounds for each caliber you own.  After the past year I am of the opinion that 200 rounds is the bare minimum ONLY for those firearms you do not regularly use.  I nearly ran out of .45ACP, and essentially had to stop shooting my Ruger P-345. (I did keep a reserve of about 100 rounds just in case I needed to have some target on hand.)

I am now of the opinion the 500 rounds is the minimum quantity one should own for a given firearm that they shoot regularly. By regularly, I define it as any firearm you shoot 4 or more times in a year.

N.U.G.U.N. stockpile (arsenal as the media would like to call it).

  • .223 = 1,500+ rnds
  • 9mm = 800+
  • 45 = 600+
    [This had been unacceptably low for the past 6 months.]
  • .22LR = < 10,000 rnds
    [Imagine how the media would spin this. *LOL*]
  • .357 Magnum = 300+
    [I’d still like a little more.]
  • .38 SPL = < 100
    [This is unacceptably low. But I have a fair amount of .357 Magnum. Our revolver takes both so it’s not a major concern. I hope to remedy this over the next few months.]
  • .380 = < 100
    [This is unacceptably low. Worse, this is a cartridge we need for practicing with our LCP. Definitely need to remedy this!]
  • 7.62×39 = < 100
    [But as I don’t actually own a rifle chambered in this, it’s not a biggie.]
  • 7.62x54r = 1,200+
    [Surplus sardine/sealed cans of 440 each.]

While some of those numbers may seem excessively high to those unfamiliar with the shooting hobby.  Let me assure you, it’s really not.  Especially if you engage in any form of competitive shooting. Our small local shooting league’s 6 week series require 300+ rounds of ammo. That doesn’t even include what you might expend during practice.  There are three of these league tourney’s a year, which equates to approx. 1,000 rounds.  Just plinking with friends can easily burn through a few hundred rounds of ammo.  So while the above quantities may seem extreme; they equate to maybe a year’s worth of ammo for the semi-casual recreational shooter.

I also have small quantities of premium personal defense ammo in .45ACP, .38 Special, 9mm, & .380. I don’t really count these in the tallies.  If a non-shooter is trying to fathom the quantities of ammo, thinking “Why would anyone need 1,000 rounds of ammo.”  Understand that such large quantities of ammo are for practice and sporting activities, and do not reflect any form of threat or danger.  Target ammo differs from premium personal defense ammo in both design and cost.  If you asked someone how many rounds of personal defense ammo they have; you’ll likely get a much much lower figure.  One that may seem more reasonable to the conflicted mind.

A good way for the non-shooter trying to understand the gun community, is to think about how many glasses (actual glass) they own.  Then compare it to how many plastic cups they buy from Costco for the 4th of July and other summer BBQs.  You know what I am talking about – those packages of 500 red plastic cups.  Now if someone asked you how many glasses you had, and you replied 500 or even 1,000. They might think that was cooky. But if you explained that you had about dozen or two glasses, but 500 disposable plastic cups. No one would look at you strangely.

Likewise, a recreational shooter may have 500+ rounds of target ammunition, but only a box or two of personal defense ammo (approx 20-50 rnds in a standard box).  It’s really not crazy.  It’d be nice if the media and reporters did a little research to understand the matter.  It’s funny (and sad) when we in the gun community read some article in the newspaper declaring such and such man had an arsenal of more than 1,000 rounds of ammo. Especially when they mentions a 22 caliber rifle.  As .22LR ammunition is commonly sold in 550 round boxes at Walmart for $10-$20.  Two boxes equates to the media’s 1,000+ arsenal.

It’s really just ignorance and lack of due diligent research on the part of the media – or deliberate sensationalism.

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  1. I’m curious to know how you like the LCP….a cop friend of ours has been trying to convince me to get one but Hubby, the gun collector, is resisting it on the premise that I don’t “need” another gun and will “probably never carry, anyway”.

    The ammo situation is pretty grim: we went into the Kittery Trading Post in Maine last week to stock up and their shelves were nearly bare. What they did have was limited to two boxes per skew # per person. I have a bulk order (2100 + free dry box) of Federal .22lr from (sorry) Cabela’s that has been backordered for over a month.

  2. We do like our LCP. Truthfully, I’ve kind of abscombed it. It’s definitely easier to carry and conceal than my .45. Great when going to movie theaters or other places with narrow seats.

    I will say this, the LCP is a close, up and personal firearm. While I was able to get a group of 6 rounds in a 2.5″ group at 25ft, that’s not something I can do consistently. The gun is capable of it, I am not. In part for lack of trying, lack of ammo, etc.

    To see the LCP in it’s focus go to a range where you can set the target at 7 yds. Or even better – 7ft. Then shoot. Almost all your rounds will land on center mass. That’s the point of the LCP. The sights are near useless. But at 5ft-15ft (where many hostile engagements occur) it doesn’t need good sights.

    Because it is so light, it has a fair amount of kick. The kick is not uncontrollable, it just makes this a “defensive” gun and not necessarily a “fun” gun. The extended magazine plates helped me a lot in controlling the LCP. But my wife didn’t notice much of a difference.

    It’s far from the best carry gun, but it’s easily carried. And it’s better to have a small gun with it’s disadvantages than to have nothing. It’s also a superb back-up or tertiary gun.

    And it’s almost cute!
    (I do wish it had a manual safety.)

    Here are links to my review:

    https://nugun.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/gun-review-lcp-ladies-carry-pistol/ (text)

    http://gunreviewpodcast.com/ruger-lcp-jason-from-nugun/ (audio)

  3. Damn! Wish the Walmart here had some .45 ACP. I’m down to 450 rds. Once things die down I’ll try to pick up a case or two.

    If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you pay for the WWB .45ACP?

  4. Around $29.95 per box of 100 rnds. Pretty much cheaper than most places sell a case of ammo these days.


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