Democrats “we make just as many stupid comments about rape…”

Woman expresses ordeal about being raped at gunpoint in a “gun free zone”. Democrat state senator from Colorado responds…

“I just want to say that, actually statistics are not on your side even if you had a gun, And, chances are that if you would have had a gun, then he would have been able to get that from you and possibly use it against you.”….”The Colorado Coalition Against Gun Violence says that for every one woman who used a handgun to kill someone in self-defense, 83 were murdered by them.”

Here it is, she is quoting a massaged and fraudulently mis-representative “fact” from a rabid anti-gun organization.

The claim is, that a handgun only saves 1 women and 83 are killed. So is that accurate?  Let’s ask some reasonable questions. 

1. First, what percentage of times that a firearm is used for self-defense does it result in killing someone? How does that number compare to the number of people shot in self-defense, but who do not die. The criminals merely being wounded?  And even more insightful, how many times has someone merely wielding a firearm in self-defense been sufficient to deter a criminal?  The few incidents I am personally aware of, all ended without a shot fired.

So let’s rephrase this statement and get the ratio of women who use a firearm to protect themselves vs those who are killed by a firearm?  I wager the ratio would be significantly different. Especially as most incidents of self defense in which the criminal is not shot, never get reported.

2. Second, what percentage of those 83 women killed, were killed at the hands of their estranged husbands/partners.  I say this, because I view that differently than say being raped/killed by a total stranger on the street. Its kind of like claiming 30,000 die from guns, without stating that most of those are suicides.

3. Lastly, how many women who were carrying a firearm were successfully raped/killed by a criminal? Maybe only 1 woman used a firearm to kill a rapist compared to 83 killed by guns. Because NOT ENOUGH WOMEN are carrying?  I wager most of the women who do carry, escape rape.  Even if it’s the fact that they merely appear more confident and less of a victim mindset, and thus the rapist chooses what he believes to be an easier target.

This just goes to show, that statistics can be spun to say a great many things depending on how you portray the values, and the question. And frankly, the CCAGV was disingenuious in their phrasing of the question. So as to mix apples and oranges and compare two different figures.

Published in: on March 6, 2013 at 10:55 am  Comments (1)  
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  1. Good Points. One more question: How many rapes were prevented just because the potential rapist thought the prospective victim MIGHT have been armed? We’ll never know the answer to that one, but I’d bet it’s significant in states where concealed carry is more common.

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